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		<title>By: Remarkk! &#187; ICT Toronto: The City, the Industry, the Community</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remarkk! &#187; ICT Toronto: The City, the Industry, the Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ok, enough bitching and complaining already. Alicia Bulwik of the ICT Toronto project has agreed to meet with some members of the TorCamp community and our extended community of Toronto tech investors, entrepreneurs and bloggers on October 5th. Thanks to our good friend Allen Gelberg of MaRS for providing space. We will hear an update on what ICT Toronto has been up to and have input into its business plan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ok, enough bitching and complaining already. Alicia Bulwik of the ICT Toronto project has agreed to meet with some members of the TorCamp community and our extended community of Toronto tech investors, entrepreneurs and bloggers on October 5th. Thanks to our good friend Allen Gelberg of MaRS for providing space. We will hear an update on what ICT Toronto has been up to and have input into its business plan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: theChickenTest</title>
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		<dc:creator>theChickenTest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Influential?...&lt;/strong&gt;

	

	&lt;Transcript&gt;Pffff. The only thing that Bryce influences is the gravity of smaller masses.&lt;Transcript&gt;
	ZING
	Well the big needs to be knocked down a notch after the success of CanUX 2006, but I am sure he appreciates the vote-of-confide...</description>
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<p>	&lt;Transcript&gt;Pffff. The only thing that Bryce influences is the gravity of smaller masses.&lt;Transcript&gt;<br />
	ZING<br />
	Well the big needs to be knocked down a notch after the success of CanUX 2006, but I am sure he appreciates the vote-of-confide&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Weblog of Tom Purves &#187; Important happenings in the policy world, ICT and DRM</title>
		<link>http://remarkk.com/2006/09/15/ict-toronto-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Weblog of Tom Purves &#187; Important happenings in the policy world, ICT and DRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What the heck is going on with the once vaunted ICT Toronto Initiative? Barcamp&#8217;s own heroic policy wonk Mark Kuznicki is organizing a meet up of techsters and bloggers &#8220;to meet with ICT Toronto the first or second week in October&#8230; The focus of the session would be for ICT to share their plans with the group and to solicit our input on what&#8217;s really necessary to support a vibrant leading tech industry cluster in Toronto.&#8221;. This conversation stemming from recent stations on Mark&#8217;s blog here and Joey&#8217;s blog here. Want to get involved? Contact Mark or add comments to any of these blogs, if you have ideas suggestions or would like to attend etc. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What the heck is going on with the once vaunted ICT Toronto Initiative? Barcamp&#8217;s own heroic policy wonk Mark Kuznicki is organizing a meet up of techsters and bloggers &#8220;to meet with ICT Toronto the first or second week in October&#8230; The focus of the session would be for ICT to share their plans with the group and to solicit our input on what&#8217;s really necessary to support a vibrant leading tech industry cluster in Toronto.&#8221;. This conversation stemming from recent stations on Mark&#8217;s blog here and Joey&#8217;s blog here. Want to get involved? Contact Mark or add comments to any of these blogs, if you have ideas suggestions or would like to attend etc. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hi, i&#8217;m jenn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; you are reading an influential blog</title>
		<link>http://remarkk.com/2006/09/15/ict-toronto-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>hi, i&#8217;m jenn &#187; Blog Archive &#187; you are reading an influential blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Shelly sent me a link today that has a list of influential women bloggers in Toronto and guess who is on it. (look for Kate&#8217;s comment - I wonder if kate knows my mom) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Shelly sent me a link today that has a list of influential women bloggers in Toronto and guess who is on it. (look for Kate&#8217;s comment &#8211; I wonder if kate knows my mom) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kuznicki</title>
		<link>http://remarkk.com/2006/09/15/ict-toronto-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kuznicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...great comments.  Thank you for demonstrating exactly why ICT Toronto needs to engage this community.

On Diversity:

I agree with the comments here about the need for diversity and diversity as a source of strength and differentiation for Toronto.  Women are part of our community, as are people from very diverse ethnic and cultural backgrounds.  Immigrant Canadians provide a powerful link to global markets.

Good Ideas, Worth Pursuing:  Y-Combinator, early stage investment; Sponsorship for BarCampEarth; Innovation Commons space

I could envision Innovation Commons hubs of shared workspace, cafe and social gathering space across the Toronto region, located in or close to existing technology clusters.  Innovation Commons provides space where entrepreneurs come to meet and where the garage startup can get out of the garage; space where people working at established companies come to hang out and pursue their next thing; space where the community comes together on a daily basis and at regular events to exchange knowledge; space where ideas meet talent, knowledge and capital.

I will forward these comments to Alicia Bulwik and see if there is any interest in convening a meeting with the Toronto technology bloggers listed above.

Keep the conversation going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;great comments.  Thank you for demonstrating exactly why ICT Toronto needs to engage this community.</p>
<p>On Diversity:</p>
<p>I agree with the comments here about the need for diversity and diversity as a source of strength and differentiation for Toronto.  Women are part of our community, as are people from very diverse ethnic and cultural backgrounds.  Immigrant Canadians provide a powerful link to global markets.</p>
<p>Good Ideas, Worth Pursuing:  Y-Combinator, early stage investment; Sponsorship for BarCampEarth; Innovation Commons space</p>
<p>I could envision Innovation Commons hubs of shared workspace, cafe and social gathering space across the Toronto region, located in or close to existing technology clusters.  Innovation Commons provides space where entrepreneurs come to meet and where the garage startup can get out of the garage; space where people working at established companies come to hang out and pursue their next thing; space where the community comes together on a daily basis and at regular events to exchange knowledge; space where ideas meet talent, knowledge and capital.</p>
<p>I will forward these comments to Alicia Bulwik and see if there is any interest in convening a meeting with the Toronto technology bloggers listed above.</p>
<p>Keep the conversation going&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Jayasekera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Jayasekera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I agree that female bloggers should be included as part of the &quot;influential&quot; list that Mark mentions, I feel compelled to point something out:  Silicon Valley, the main target of Chris Messina&#039;s white-male-domination comments, is not only top-5 but is #1 in the world, and by a long way.  Diversity is evidently not a requirement for success in &quot;ICT&quot;.

To me, this suggests that we can instead view diversity as one of Toronto&#039;s competitive edges - and if the goal is to &quot;compete&quot; with other cities so that we&#039;re in the top 5 while some other city isn&#039;t, surely any competitive edges we have should be exploited to the fullest.  For instance, as I&#039;ve commented elsewhere, we can produce multilingual applications where the Valley might just produce English.  As the Web becomes less and less English, we could accomplish a lot in the global marketplace (and the insular Valley might not even notice).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I agree that female bloggers should be included as part of the &#8220;influential&#8221; list that Mark mentions, I feel compelled to point something out:  Silicon Valley, the main target of Chris Messina&#8217;s white-male-domination comments, is not only top-5 but is #1 in the world, and by a long way.  Diversity is evidently not a requirement for success in &#8220;ICT&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me, this suggests that we can instead view diversity as one of Toronto&#8217;s competitive edges &#8211; and if the goal is to &#8220;compete&#8221; with other cities so that we&#8217;re in the top 5 while some other city isn&#8217;t, surely any competitive edges we have should be exploited to the fullest.  For instance, as I&#8217;ve commented elsewhere, we can produce multilingual applications where the Valley might just produce English.  As the Web becomes less and less English, we could accomplish a lot in the global marketplace (and the insular Valley might not even notice).</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Trgovac</title>
		<link>http://remarkk.com/2006/09/15/ict-toronto-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Trgovac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 05:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Mark ..

Great summary of the issues and challenges with ICT.  I want to echo Deborah&#039;s comment -- women need to be involved in this initiative and in your suggested list of bloggers.  Leesa Barnes, Sandy Kemsley, Jen Nolan, Malgosia Green, Estelle Havva, Julia West, Sacha Chua, Jen Schachter.

Following on the heels of the recent &quot;Future of Web Apps&quot; in San Francisco, a conf where all the speakers were men and all but one were white, Chris Messina wrote a great post about why men must be concerned about diversity.  It is available at http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/15/the-future-of-white-boy-clubs/

If Toronto has any hope of being the top 5 anything in the world, we must ensure that there are a diversity of voices and perspectives collaborating on these initiatives.

Cheers ... Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mark ..</p>
<p>Great summary of the issues and challenges with ICT.  I want to echo Deborah&#8217;s comment &#8212; women need to be involved in this initiative and in your suggested list of bloggers.  Leesa Barnes, Sandy Kemsley, Jen Nolan, Malgosia Green, Estelle Havva, Julia West, Sacha Chua, Jen Schachter.</p>
<p>Following on the heels of the recent &#8220;Future of Web Apps&#8221; in San Francisco, a conf where all the speakers were men and all but one were white, Chris Messina wrote a great post about why men must be concerned about diversity.  It is available at <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/15/the-future-of-white-boy-clubs/" rel="nofollow">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/15/the-future-of-white-boy-clubs/</a></p>
<p>If Toronto has any hope of being the top 5 anything in the world, we must ensure that there are a diversity of voices and perspectives collaborating on these initiatives.</p>
<p>Cheers &#8230; Kate</p>
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		<title>By: /pd</title>
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		<dc:creator>/pd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simple POC to see where this ICT is heading is to ask them to sponsor the next years BarCampEarth event in Toronto. Can and will they step up to the plate ?? After all , its budget time and can easily do this -correct ?? 

I wonder who hard it will be for them ICT,  to get a small little fund allocation to sponsor an event which is not run by any company, any individual or where the responsibility is shared by the community.

Joey, is spot on with his comments.

Having had experiences within working and policy groups at the directorate level with the government, all I can say is , be rest assured- when their budgets are completed and no more funds available or someone at city hall feels like throwing the entity under the bus,  the entity will be closed down. That&#039;s the nature of the beast !!

Sincere advise, take the advise of Joey and Rohan !! :)- 

&#039;nuf said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple POC to see where this ICT is heading is to ask them to sponsor the next years BarCampEarth event in Toronto. Can and will they step up to the plate ?? After all , its budget time and can easily do this -correct ?? </p>
<p>I wonder who hard it will be for them ICT,  to get a small little fund allocation to sponsor an event which is not run by any company, any individual or where the responsibility is shared by the community.</p>
<p>Joey, is spot on with his comments.</p>
<p>Having had experiences within working and policy groups at the directorate level with the government, all I can say is , be rest assured- when their budgets are completed and no more funds available or someone at city hall feels like throwing the entity under the bus,  the entity will be closed down. That&#8217;s the nature of the beast !!</p>
<p>Sincere advise, take the advise of Joey and Rohan !! <img src='http://remarkk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> - </p>
<p>&#8216;nuf said</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been involved with the advisory group from the beginning (when they did the initial RFP for to pick the consulting company to develop the overall strategy).  Being my first involvement in a government initiative, I was and continue to be amazed at the slow progress.  But putting that aside, at least there is a target date by the end of the year to develop a business plan.  This will hopefully put a stake in the ground and allow things to move forward.

The biggest issue with ICT Toronto is there is going to be a very diverse audience it needs to cater to in order to achieve its goal of making Toronto a top 5 ICT cluster.  i.e.

ICT workers	
Toronto is a vibrant ICT hub with a robust job market with lots of companies working on leading edge technologies

Students
The ICT field offers an interesting career with good job prospects &amp; Toronto has universities that are world renowned in the ICT field

Entrepreneurs
Toronto has a strong ICT hub to support emerging companies in terms of university linkages, talent, funding, and a marketplace

CEOs
Toronto has a strong ICT hub to support corporate R&amp;D and product development centers

Investors
Toronto offers good deal-flow of start-up companies seeking investment

General public
The Toronto ICT hub is an important contributor to the region / economy &amp; ICT companies in Toronto have produced new technologies that have improved our standard of living

Politicians
Importance of the ICT hub in terms of tax base, job creation

Associations
ICT Toronto can complement the activities of your association and make the ICT sector stronger through a unified voice

Educational institutions
Toronto offers a strong ICT hub to support the commercialization of academic research


Each of these areas has existing people, groups, organizations doing good work.  There is no need to try replicate or subsume them under umbrella of ICT Toronto.  Nor is there a need to try &quot;micro-manage&quot; them as they will all rightfully have different agendas, interests that ICT Toronto may not care about.  What is required is an lighweight overall organization that can be the focal point. 

It needs a visible leader that can identify &amp; lead a limited set of top issues that we agree should be tackled (i.e. the ideas of the world class conference or immigration issues that were mentioned at the meeting).  This person/group can then look to tap into/mobilize all of the various other entities that can contribute/help pull this together.  The other entities can collectively contribute to this so for these top few issues we feel strongly about, we have a coordinated effort.  However, they still actively pursue their own goals/objectives to provide value to the own stakeholders.

So my personal approach on this is to wait for them to sort out their business plan / pick a leader.  After that it will be a lot easier to understand/influence the direction.  For the areas where there is synergy ICT Toronto can be tapped into to help complement initiatives that each entity is working on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been involved with the advisory group from the beginning (when they did the initial RFP for to pick the consulting company to develop the overall strategy).  Being my first involvement in a government initiative, I was and continue to be amazed at the slow progress.  But putting that aside, at least there is a target date by the end of the year to develop a business plan.  This will hopefully put a stake in the ground and allow things to move forward.</p>
<p>The biggest issue with ICT Toronto is there is going to be a very diverse audience it needs to cater to in order to achieve its goal of making Toronto a top 5 ICT cluster.  i.e.</p>
<p>ICT workers<br />
Toronto is a vibrant ICT hub with a robust job market with lots of companies working on leading edge technologies</p>
<p>Students<br />
The ICT field offers an interesting career with good job prospects &amp; Toronto has universities that are world renowned in the ICT field</p>
<p>Entrepreneurs<br />
Toronto has a strong ICT hub to support emerging companies in terms of university linkages, talent, funding, and a marketplace</p>
<p>CEOs<br />
Toronto has a strong ICT hub to support corporate R&amp;D and product development centers</p>
<p>Investors<br />
Toronto offers good deal-flow of start-up companies seeking investment</p>
<p>General public<br />
The Toronto ICT hub is an important contributor to the region / economy &amp; ICT companies in Toronto have produced new technologies that have improved our standard of living</p>
<p>Politicians<br />
Importance of the ICT hub in terms of tax base, job creation</p>
<p>Associations<br />
ICT Toronto can complement the activities of your association and make the ICT sector stronger through a unified voice</p>
<p>Educational institutions<br />
Toronto offers a strong ICT hub to support the commercialization of academic research</p>
<p>Each of these areas has existing people, groups, organizations doing good work.  There is no need to try replicate or subsume them under umbrella of ICT Toronto.  Nor is there a need to try &#8220;micro-manage&#8221; them as they will all rightfully have different agendas, interests that ICT Toronto may not care about.  What is required is an lighweight overall organization that can be the focal point. </p>
<p>It needs a visible leader that can identify &amp; lead a limited set of top issues that we agree should be tackled (i.e. the ideas of the world class conference or immigration issues that were mentioned at the meeting).  This person/group can then look to tap into/mobilize all of the various other entities that can contribute/help pull this together.  The other entities can collectively contribute to this so for these top few issues we feel strongly about, we have a coordinated effort.  However, they still actively pursue their own goals/objectives to provide value to the own stakeholders.</p>
<p>So my personal approach on this is to wait for them to sort out their business plan / pick a leader.  After that it will be a lot easier to understand/influence the direction.  For the areas where there is synergy ICT Toronto can be tapped into to help complement initiatives that each entity is working on.</p>
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		<title>By: The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century :: Joey deVilla's Personal Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century :: Joey deVilla's Personal Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 02:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More on ICT Toronto...&lt;/strong&gt;

Talk About Your Strange Timing

This morning, I decided to voice my displeasure over a lack of visible progress by ICT Toronto, which purports to be a group whose mission is to make Toronto one of the world&#039;s leading centres for information and comm...</description>
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<p>Talk About Your Strange Timing</p>
<p>This morning, I decided to voice my displeasure over a lack of visible progress by ICT Toronto, which purports to be a group whose mission is to make Toronto one of the world&#8217;s leading centres for information and comm&#8230;</p>
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