Comments on: Gender Bias in Nerdville…er…DemoCamp? http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/ OPEN creative communities Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:29:53 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: debhart http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-2998 debhart Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:34:21 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-2998 Thanks, Mark. I totally agree with the boredom factor of DemoCamp - I only go for the socializing afterwards, and then only if I have the energy to sit thru the demos! I'll make my facilitation offer once more: Open Space is a way to make the social rules of a BarCamp more explicit and newbie-friendly, and a number of great BarCamps are using it - for example, RecentChangesCamp last year in CA (great video online). I suspect it's also more female-friendly. I'm open to facilitating a one- or two-day Camp for free, but cannot organize the logistics... It would be fun to do! I'm doing Open Spaces in London, England (Qcon), Montreal (for the wiki-crowd) and Toronto (XPday) this year... let's add TorCamp to the list! (Note: this special offer will expire eventually - it's a $1000 offer :-) Thanks, Mark. I totally agree with the boredom factor of DemoCamp – I only go for the socializing afterwards, and then only if I have the energy to sit thru the demos!

I’ll make my facilitation offer once more: Open Space is a way to make the social rules of a BarCamp more explicit and newbie-friendly, and a number of great BarCamps are using it – for example, RecentChangesCamp last year in CA (great video online). I suspect it’s also more female-friendly. I’m open to facilitating a one- or two-day Camp for free, but cannot organize the logistics… It would be fun to do!

I’m doing Open Spaces in London, England (Qcon), Montreal (for the wiki-crowd) and Toronto (XPday) this year… let’s add TorCamp to the list! (Note: this special offer will expire eventually – it’s a $1000 offer :-)

]]> By: Remarkk! » 1st Annual Best of Remarkk! http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-2069 Remarkk! » 1st Annual Best of Remarkk! Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:43:40 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-2069 [...] Gender Bias in Nerdville…er…DemoCamp? [...] [...] Gender Bias in Nerdville…er…DemoCamp? [...]

]]> By: Weblog of Tom Purves » The Sirens of Democamp http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 Weblog of Tom Purves » The Sirens of Democamp Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:20:35 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1627 [...] Mark Kuznicki has a great and entertain post on the future of democamp and also the issue of the ordinary male nerd to female nerd to hot gay nerd ratio. This later issue as something I’ve definitely noticed at least the half of (not that the deb’s, leila’s, malgosia’s, sacha’s, jo brown’s, mira’s, estelle’s, amber’s, Siobhan’s, Shelley’s and many others of demo camp aren’t worth an entire demographic of women each on their own). [...] [...] Mark Kuznicki has a great and entertain post on the future of democamp and also the issue of the ordinary male nerd to female nerd to hot gay nerd ratio. This later issue as something I’ve definitely noticed at least the half of (not that the deb’s, leila’s, malgosia’s, sacha’s, jo brown’s, mira’s, estelle’s, amber’s, Siobhan’s, Shelley’s and many others of demo camp aren’t worth an entire demographic of women each on their own). [...]

]]> By: Mark Kuznicki http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1621 Mark Kuznicki Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:11:14 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1621 Bryce, almost 3 days without touching a computer?! I have a hard time with 3 hours these days. When you think about how this compares to the formal organizations out there, I think it's important to note that the community's values of openness and transparency are intact and working. Bryce, almost 3 days without touching a computer?! I have a hard time with 3 hours these days.

When you think about how this compares to the formal organizations out there, I think it’s important to note that the community’s values of openness and transparency are intact and working.

]]> By: BryceJ http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1620 BryceJ Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:14:25 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1620 You know Mark until now I haven't touched a computer since doing that GTalk drive-by to you at 1am. I love how you have expressed some of the ideas we share so eloquently. Patrick I am also glad to see that we also share the same feelings. It is good to know that after the incredible year we have had of great events that the community can point out our problems and that we can address them. You know Mark until now I haven’t touched a computer since doing that GTalk drive-by to you at 1am. I love how you have expressed some of the ideas we share so eloquently. Patrick I am also glad to see that we also share the same feelings. It is good to know that after the incredible year we have had of great events that the community can point out our problems and that we can address them.

]]> By: Rohan Jayasekera http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1608 Rohan Jayasekera Mon, 04 Dec 2006 07:33:22 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1608 I started to enter a comment here, but as it got longer and longer I decided to make it a post in my own blog. You can read it <a href="http://www.rohanjayasekera.com/blog/2006/12/nature-and-nurture-of-democamp.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I started to enter a comment here, but as it got longer and longer I decided to make it a post in my own blog. You can read it here.

]]> By: Mark Kuznicki http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1604 Mark Kuznicki Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:51:24 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1604 <a href="http://www.mglenn.com/archives/2006/12/03/democampgenderbias" rel="nofollow">Michael agrees</a> that we need to move beyond gadget appeal. Michael agrees that we need to move beyond gadget appeal.

]]> By: Mark Kuznicki http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1603 Mark Kuznicki Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:48:56 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1603 I'm finally getting around to reading <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Medici-Effect-Frans-Johansson/dp/1591391865/sr=8-1/qid=1165189550/ref=sr_1_1/701-3453089-8425952?ie=UTF8&s=books" rel="nofollow">The Medici Effect</a>, which is kind of related to what you describe. The interesting and truly innovative stuff is at the edges where different ideas and domains intersect. So, MediciCamp? The format could be to propose sessions based on a combination of two or more domains, with participants coming from many different disciplines. Audacious enough? Maybe we'll get MaRS to host and they can hire a professional Open Space facilitator? Hmmm... I’m finally getting around to reading The Medici Effect, which is kind of related to what you describe. The interesting and truly innovative stuff is at the edges where different ideas and domains intersect.

So, MediciCamp? The format could be to propose sessions based on a combination of two or more domains, with participants coming from many different disciplines. Audacious enough? Maybe we’ll get MaRS to host and they can hire a professional Open Space facilitator? Hmmm…

]]> By: Patrick Dinnen http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1602 Patrick Dinnen Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:03:25 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1602 Misfits? You'll be hearing from my lawyer! Actually, MisfitCamp might be really cool :) The coolest stuff always seems to happen around the edges, where one weird topic runs into another. MisfitCamp - The Camp where all the cool uncategorisable stuff lives. Perhaps RandomCamp has less of a branding problem. Seriously though, I love hearing about topics that are totally new to me. If it's a web 2.0 app or a CSS technique, chances are I've already read the blog and bought the t-shirt. It's the stuff that's outside my experience that I want to hear, two of my favourite DemoCamp presentations were hacking disposable digital cameras and classifying modern music. Exactly because those were from outside my area of knowledge and really got me thinking. Misfits? You’ll be hearing from my lawyer!

Actually, MisfitCamp might be really cool :) The coolest stuff always seems to happen around the edges, where one weird topic runs into another.

MisfitCamp – The Camp where all the cool uncategorisable stuff lives. Perhaps RandomCamp has less of a branding problem.

Seriously though, I love hearing about topics that are totally new to me. If it’s a web 2.0 app or a CSS technique, chances are I’ve already read the blog and bought the t-shirt.

It’s the stuff that’s outside my experience that I want to hear, two of my favourite DemoCamp presentations were hacking disposable digital cameras and classifying modern music. Exactly because those were from outside my area of knowledge and really got me thinking.

]]> By: Mark Kuznicki http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/comment-page-1/#comment-1589 Mark Kuznicki Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:50:39 +0000 http://remarkk.com/2006/12/02/gender-bias-in-nerdvilleerdemocamp/#comment-1589 Patrick, I'm sure you're not alone. Perhaps the misfits of DemoCamp can gather and organize something else. It's a good idea. Why don't we pose the question to the group at the next DemoCamp and invite people to stick around for a few minutes to setup another 'Camp. Patrick, I’m sure you’re not alone. Perhaps the misfits of DemoCamp can gather and organize something else. It’s a good idea. Why don’t we pose the question to the group at the next DemoCamp and invite people to stick around for a few minutes to setup another ‘Camp.

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