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	<title>Comments on: LIFT: Holm Friebe and Philipp Albers, &#8220;The Hedonistic Company&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Todd Sundsted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Sundsted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this presentation tremendously.  I&#039;d have loved to see it live.  The lifestyle angle is clearly one of the fundamental drivers behind many of the changes taking place in the workplace.  On a flight last month I read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiritmag.com/2008_01/clickthis/01knicknacks.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this piece&lt;/a&gt; in Spirit magazine.  In a bastardization of the original research, the author concluded that &quot;No more than 22 percent of your office knick-knacks should be personal.&quot;  The fact that we even discuss a limit (whatever that limit is) on how much of your personal life is allowed to intrude on your work life is a sad comment on how unhealthy many organizations are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this presentation tremendously.  I&#8217;d have loved to see it live.  The lifestyle angle is clearly one of the fundamental drivers behind many of the changes taking place in the workplace.  On a flight last month I read <a href="http://www.spiritmag.com/2008_01/clickthis/01knicknacks.php" rel="nofollow">this piece</a> in Spirit magazine.  In a bastardization of the original research, the author concluded that &#8220;No more than 22 percent of your office knick-knacks should be personal.&#8221;  The fact that we even discuss a limit (whatever that limit is) on how much of your personal life is allowed to intrude on your work life is a sad comment on how unhealthy many organizations are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kuznicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kuznicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read Timothy Ferris, but I&#039;m a bit put off by my perception of his followers as cultish, ego-centric and hyper-simplified in the tradition of self-help books generally.

While ZIA haven&#039;t figured it all out, what&#039;s interesting is that they look at work from a &lt;i&gt;cultural&lt;/i&gt; point of view.  They are artists and cultural provocateurs who happen to have a business together.  And yeah, the no office thing will probably drop off the next version of that slide deck and will probably introduce a positive thing in it&#039;s place:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://coworking.pbwiki.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;coworking&lt;/a&gt;!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://rethink.unspace.ca/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pete Forde&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a&gt;Unspace&lt;/a&gt; talk about themselves as a band, using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://rubyfringe.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;culture, values and norms of punk rock&lt;/a&gt; in how they do business as a company.

It&#039;s not just about doing the same business in new ways, it&#039;s about a lifestyle, a way to make meaning that connects life to work within a social context.

Lots to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read Timothy Ferris, but I&#8217;m a bit put off by my perception of his followers as cultish, ego-centric and hyper-simplified in the tradition of self-help books generally.</p>
<p>While ZIA haven&#8217;t figured it all out, what&#8217;s interesting is that they look at work from a <i>cultural</i> point of view.  They are artists and cultural provocateurs who happen to have a business together.  And yeah, the no office thing will probably drop off the next version of that slide deck and will probably introduce a positive thing in it&#8217;s place:  <a href="http://coworking.pbwiki.com/" rel="nofollow">coworking</a>!</p>
<p><a href="http://rethink.unspace.ca/" rel="nofollow">Pete Forde</a> and <a>Unspace</a> talk about themselves as a band, using the <a href="http://rubyfringe.com/" rel="nofollow">culture, values and norms of punk rock</a> in how they do business as a company.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just about doing the same business in new ways, it&#8217;s about a lifestyle, a way to make meaning that connects life to work within a social context.</p>
<p>Lots to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I am living in Germany and often heard about Powerpoint Karaoke, I had totally no idea that it was invented here. This was definitely a big LIFT surprise for me.

I am not really convinced by the ZIA, but maybe because Timothy Ferris&#039; 4-hour-workweek is easier to understand and delivers a clearer point. Many of their points seem random (no office, no fixed costs) and are not connected to a better and free work life. I am waiting for more general recommendations that are practical and feasible for others and not just one example how someone maybe lucky or ambitious did it. Despite the contra, I really like thinking about future forms of work because I see at the end of my studies either the persons following a typical career or entrepreneurs, freelancer, travelers who try a different approach for their life. There is a change going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I am living in Germany and often heard about Powerpoint Karaoke, I had totally no idea that it was invented here. This was definitely a big LIFT surprise for me.</p>
<p>I am not really convinced by the ZIA, but maybe because Timothy Ferris&#8217; 4-hour-workweek is easier to understand and delivers a clearer point. Many of their points seem random (no office, no fixed costs) and are not connected to a better and free work life. I am waiting for more general recommendations that are practical and feasible for others and not just one example how someone maybe lucky or ambitious did it. Despite the contra, I really like thinking about future forms of work because I see at the end of my studies either the persons following a typical career or entrepreneurs, freelancer, travelers who try a different approach for their life. There is a change going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kuznicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kuznicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Crow keeps on talking about bringing it to Toronto. We should do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Crow keeps on talking about bringing it to Toronto. We should do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In googling for Powerpoint Karaoke I found this link: http://www.tiara.org/blog/?p=192  Apparently it is a bar game in Germany which involves downloading a powerpoint presentation and the person has to make up the presentation as each slide is presented.  Sounds like a fun night at the bar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In googling for Powerpoint Karaoke I found this link: <a href="http://www.tiara.org/blog/?p=192" rel="nofollow">http://www.tiara.org/blog/?p=192</a>  Apparently it is a bar game in Germany which involves downloading a powerpoint presentation and the person has to make up the presentation as each slide is presented.  Sounds like a fun night at the bar!</p>
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